Flight Track. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. HACKBERRY, La. I'm left wondering what lessons can I take away from this one to keep it from happening to me when I fly? Later 182's do not.https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/02/2020-24046/airworthiness-directives-textron-aviation-inc-airplanes. NEW ORLEANS The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National. High speed nose down impact. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. Both Thompson and Alex Kerbow were trained by Palermo to be commercial pilots and flight instructors. You are misinterpreting your RC observations.Aircraft would be falling out of the sly every day if throttling back blanked the elevator.The man actually is off on a crazy idea, but nonsense on youtube always finds devoted followers. Louisiana authorities had identified the pilot earlier as Richard Don Clements and his instructor as Rock Palermo. He enjoyed every minute spent with them, from discussing politics and world travel with Rachel to attending Ryans baseball games to listening to Sarah play guitar and speak the Spanish language. "Tue 06:41:31 PM 29.9490 -93.3408 351 110 127 4,225 367 Climbing Tue 06:41:50 PM 29.9582 -93.3425 352 116 133 4,275 Level Tue 06:42:06 PM 29.9667 -93.3437 356 115 132 4,225 47 Climbing Tue 06:42:22 PM 29.9747 -93.3442 359 95 109 4,300 214 Climbing Tue 06:42:41 PM 29.9824 -93.3438 9 82 94 4,350 36 Climbing Tue 06:43:04 PM 29.9898 -93.3416 20 66 76 4,325 -205 Descending Tue 06:43:25 PM Tue 06:43:25 PM 29.9947 -93.3391 29 56 64 4,200 -357 Descending. In 2012 Don completed a lifetime goal of traveling to Africa and climbing Mt. More people need to call out their dereliction of duty. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. HACKBERRY, La. Carbon Monoxide poisoning possibly? There was a small plane crash near Hackberry, LA on Tuesday, February 2, 2021. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. An ATP-rated CFI teaching another pilot, good weather, an aircraft known to be fairly reliable and having docile characteristics. To day & Tonight : The Temperatures across the Friday PM Forecast: starting weekend cooler then trending warmer. Don was honored in 2015 as a Duke by the Krewe of Mystique for the many contributions he made to the community. The bodies were identified as Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements, Mancuso said in a news conference. The private pilot and flight instructor were fatally injured. The airplane wing never stalled but remained at a high angle of attack just above stall. Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, KPLC reports. The last of ADS-B data from Flight Aware only shows the start of the incident. "HACKBERRY, La. (KPLC) -The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the deadly crash that claimed the life of two well known citizens in our area. He was happiest in the clouds. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered." Good point, thanks. The crankshaft sheared aft of the propeller flange. Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. Because of this, some have theorized that a propeller failure is to blame for this accident.Losing a blade in flight, with the 3-blade, constant speed propeller rotating at 2400-2500 rpm would likely cause a vibration so violent, it could easily render the pilots unconscious and/or damage the airframe/elevator so severely that the airplane would not be controllable.If only we could go through the maintenance records and see when the constant speed propeller was last serviced or overhauled.I'm sure the NTSB will figure it out, but we'll just have to wait. He stated that the private pilot completed the flight maneuvers well and he did not notice anything of concern. BATON ROUGE, La. Baton Rouge man arrested in Ascension horse theft; one adult, two minors Southern University AgCenter's Livestock Show celebrates its 80th anniversary, St. John's big inning hands Southeastern second straight loss, Coach Kim Mulkey talks LSU's record-tying season. Visitation services will be held on Friday, February 5, 2021, between 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. with a Scripture Service to be held at 6:30 p.m. at Trinity Baptist Church, 1800 Country Club Rd., Lake Charles. Would like to ask for a line of discussion about the lack of a mayday call, which hasn't been previously discussed in this thread. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. 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Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. A man who was the pilot and attorney for a southwest Louisiana sheriffs office and a second person were killed when their small plane crashed in a neighboring parish, apparently during a flying lesson. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. He serves on the LSU Law Center Trial Advocacy faculty. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). It reached an altitude of only 200 feet before exploding and plunging into the ocean. The last 12 seconds of recorded data show the plane made a right turn and descended 3,200 feet leading up to the accident. BATON ROUGE - One week into Lent and the crawfish market is seeing one of its first significant drops of the season. The Untold Story of Roberto Clemente's Plane Crash Litigation by John Racanelli January 7, 2014 The Fatal Crash Roberto Clemente was both a remarkable ballplayer and genuine folk hero. Just one comment, not trying to be judgmental. Two bodies were removed from the plane that crashed Tuesday evening on a small island near Hackberry, Cameron Parish Sheriff Ron Johnson told news agencies. The third blade was recovered at the crash site, just not by the "NTSB" Who ever recovered the airplane did not do a thorough enough job. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. He should be smart enough to simply ask someone else to report the find to the FSDO if his ongoing vendetta complicates doing so on his own. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. Scene of plane crash near Hackberry in Cameron Parish February 3, 2021 . The bodies are believed to be. Is it possible that there was carbon monoxide asphyxiation putting both pilots to sleep? If Rock couldnt recover from this, I dont think anyone else could, said Kerbow. if I need to take the controls, I will take the controls, said Kerbow. Mancuso was visibly upset by his passing as spoke to those assembled, "He is one of those people you can't replace.". The Tigers beat out No. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. a practice stall , with a forward C of G ? Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. Youtube guy Dan Gryder claims to have found the third blade at the crash site. BATON ROUGE - The Tigers win the Podium Challenge in the River Center with a score of 197.700. No words exist to describe the void that will be left by Rocks absence. NTSB should already know if that was evident.Still a head scratcher. Figure 1 shows the end of the recorded flight track and the accident location. Don't get taken in by the constant criticism of NTSB and FAA efforts. This one is just tough.". Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. Ive known Dan a few years although I havent talked to him in awhile but if he said he found it then Id say he found it. quote: Was a 1979 Cessna 182 N4765N. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. In the last 12 seconds of recorded data, the airplane made a right turn and had descended about 3,200 ft. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Was the missing blade buried with the wreckage and not found.. or did the blade fail at 4500 feet and get thrown before the dive? The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. At least 68 people were killed Sunday when an aircraft went down near the city of Pokhara in central Nepal, a government official said, the country's deadliest plane crash in more than 30 years. Regardless of the number of hours and ratings a pilot may have, if they're not comfortable with the plane falling out of the sky with the nose pointed straight down at the ground, the likelihood of a panicked response increases.I'm very thankful that I started with gliders (including giving many acro rides) and then flew Caravan jump planes. On January 30, 1993, Don married the love of his life, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, at the First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles, LA. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Fatal flight: full fuel and two heavy guys in the front. Copyright 2021 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. The Martin 404 aircraft was heading to . Flight instructors consider Palermo a friend, mentor and best pilot they ever met. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. They were aboard a 1979 Cessna 182Q, of which Clements had recently become part owner of. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. Records show that the day's first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. JohnsontoldKPLC-TV that the second occupant, Richard Don Clements, was believed to be a student of Palermos. Date & Time: February 2, 2021, 17:44 Local, Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General aviation - Instructional. Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry on Tuesday, Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso announced Wednesday. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. When in that position in that maneuver, you need to push forward and complete the roll, but when inverted, everything is upside down and backwards, so the natural tendency or the instinct for anybody who has not gotten instruction in that maneuver is to pull back hard which points the plane straight at the ground, ground speed drops towards zero as the vertical speed and airspeed goes off the dials, the rotational inertia of the roll causes the plane to continue to roll as it heads down, and you pull out (or impact) going towards a right angle to the right of the original path if you were attempting to roll to the left. Speaking with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements. The wreckage was recovered to a secure storage facility where an engine and airframe examination was completed under the supervision of a Federal Aviation Administration inspector. When I switched to a slightly smaller three-bladed prop to get a little more tip clearance, I found that the plane would just stop flying when the throttle was pulled back to idle or near idle. When that happens, if you come out of the botched slow roll, you level out traveling in a direction at an angle of about 50 t0 80 degrees from your original course in the direction opposite of the direction of the attempted roll. But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. Rock was a respected attorney and member of the Louisiana Bar. Mancuso apologized for his demeanor and outburst of emotion during the conference. @Trimble - No CFI would roll or allow his student to roll a 182.Your first paragraph seems to be describing a loop, not a roll. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. More controversy for clicks and useful in the relentless vendetta against NTSB. Take notice how he said it: "I found it and it's still there." Stony Plain pilot Michael Clements has died following a plane crash in Spokane, Washington, reports a . These are the ones that really concern me. Copyright 2021 KPLC. That's all!!!! In previous comments I made elsewhere, I was just speculating. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. They took off, flew out somewhere to do a bunch of maneuvers, were flying back some distance, got close to home, decided to try a slow roll, smurfed it, augered it straight into the mud. On Feb. 2, 2021, an aircraft went down, killing both men on board, Rock Palermo and Don Clements. I agree. The following individuals will serve as pallbearers: Jay Bice, Kevin Derousselle, John Emerson, Ellis Hassien, Tony Mancuso, Rob Parrish, Poncho Seaford, and Matt Vezinot. He may have not been able to retrieve it. Loss of elevator authority as speed reduced at 4500 feet. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, LA. All rights reserved. I missed the nose down attitude observed by witnesses. The initial impact crater extended about 15 ft deep and contained a majority of the airplane, to include the engine, propeller, fuselage, and empennage. Dr Mary Lou Clements-Mann, epidemiologist and leading researcher on AIDS vaccines, dies with her husband, Dr Jonathan Max Mann, in Swissair plane crash off Nova Scotia; couple were on their way to . I propose that they had been doing training for an hour or so in a practice area, were returning to the airport traveling in a straight line for many miles, when they got within eyesight of the airport and were thinking the fun was almost over, for whatever reason, they attempted a slow roll to the left, they had forward CG (close to, at, or beyond limits is not known, but probably somewhere forward), so when they went over the top and were inverted, the nose started to fall to the ground. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. Im not saying thats what happened, just a theory and my original gut feeling of what might have happened, but it is a theory that seems consistent with the facts. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. On Feb. 2, 2021, an aircraft went down, killing both men on board, Rock Palermo and Don Clements. One of his proudest moments was in 2016 when he presented his daughter, Mary Kathryn as the Princess Music of Lincoln Center. Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. @ http://kirtlandflightcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/C182-POH.pdf notes that "Prompt lowering of the nose to maintain airspeed and establish a glide attitude is the first response to an engine failure" and a Figure indicating at a 'speed 70 kias, prop windmilling, flaps up, zero wind" the ideal glide distance from 4,000 AGL to ground is 6 miles." Watch the 2 Your Health report for Thursday, Watch the 2 Your Health report for Tuesday, Crawfish Tracker: Signs of life (and price drops). It would recover immediately with added power.I won't go so far as to say he's nailed it as to the cause of this crash, but at least he's not off on some crazy idea. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. "Two witnesses observed the airplane in a rapid descent with the nose pointed at the ground. Don Clement's will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday . BATON ROUGE - One week into Lent and the crawfish market is seeing one of its first significant drops of the season. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. You keep flying the airplane. On February 2, 2021, at 1744 central standard time, a Cessna 182, N4765N, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Hackberry, Louisiana. Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso spoke at a press conference on Wednesday morning. They both observed the bottom of the airplane and did not notice any rotational movement. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. A high-speed, vertical power dive could overspeed the prop, possibly causing something to let go. Another owner of the plane flew with Clements and Palermo the day before the accident and didnt report anything of concern. Could forward CG tail stall and slow airspeed be maintained (full aft elevator, lack of elevator authority) all the way to the ground with nose down? NEW ORLEANS The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National Transportation Safety Board reported Thursday. Nose down attitude would be even more likely that the pilots were fixated on full aft elevator. A Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas are to investigate the crash, KPLC-TV reported. Little did they know but nine (9) years later, in 2002, Nancy, Don and their two children, Will and Mary Kathryn would become devoted members of First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles. There was a problem saving your notification. He kept me composed. The airplane impacted soft ground on an island about 1.5 nautical miles northeast of Hackberry. An uncontrollable dive in an otherwise intact 182 certainly brings the elevator performance into the picture.Thanks for including the link to the FAA's "Dirty Dozen" of human-factor issues related to maintenance practices - good reading for 182 owners. He could not have been prouder of his children. Probable causes are generally given in final reports, which can take a year or more. It flew great with a two-blade prop. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. He was a certified flight instructor and passed on his joy of flying to many. You made some very astute observations focused on elevator issues, compounded by the possible loss of a blade. lol) to give me the answer. During training, broker was in the back seat with the two in the front. The impact crater is 15 feet deep and wings were crushed aft to the rear wing spar.Can't crush wings rearward like that or crater that deep coming in level. The youtube guy's 3rd dramatic video came out but has no photo or any mention about the missing blade. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. Select from these options: Breaking News, Evening News Headlines, Latest COVID-19 Headlines, Morning News Headlines, Special Offers, Scene of plane crash near Hackberry in Cameron Parish February 3, 2021. NEW ORLEANS (AP) The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National Transportation Safety Board reported Thursday. Copyright 2022 KPLC. I even asked at one point, Rock, would you like to take controls of the airplane? He said, No, youre doing a good job. Straight line from where? He was preceded in death by his father, Joseph R. Palermo, Jr. Rock delighted in all things involving his family.
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